“What he saw at the U.S. border absolutely shocked us”
J. J. Carrell speaks to Redacted’s Clayton Morris, April 30, 2024
CLAYTON MORRIS: Could the invasion at the U.S. southern border be even worse than we imagine?
Is that even possible?
Well, that’s exactly what our next guest just found. J.J. Carrell is a 24-year veteran of Customs and Border Protection. He travelled as part of the new documentary called Treason that he’s working on. One of the first stops was at Imperial Beach in San Diego, his old stomping grounds, to see how much it’s changed in a few short years.
This is, of course, the main invasion point into the United States. And what he found, in just a few short years from leaving Customs and Border Protection, under Joe Biden, is astonishing. Watch.
[00:38]
J.J. CARRELL: I want you to understand, America. You got people sleeping in gutters. In the rain walk, over here. You’ve got this. This is what I’m trying to tell you, America. When we say we’re going on mission to teach you what the hell is going on, if this is treason or not — this is treason! Look at this. Just people. They look like burritos, stacked one on top of each other.
You’ve got to understand, United States Border Patrol, 97 years, in our history, we never did this shit! This never existed. If I showed Border Patrol agents that you’ve got illegal aliens in America, sleeping and living in America — with bonfires! People from Africa, the Middle East, all of these military-aged men. All of them. Look at them.
You think any of these people give a crap about America? Any of them?
Look at what we’ve got. This is America now.
MORRIS: J.J. joins us now, back home safely, in South Dakota. J.J., welcome back to the show.
It’s been, obviously, not in uniform, since you’ve been there, it’s been a few years [since you were] in uniform. You were back there to do interviews for when you were working on your book. But how much has that spot changed since you were last there?
[02:05]
CARRELL: It completely changed. This never happened. As I said in the video. This has never happened. Meaning, if I would — I spent 24 years, 10 years in that area, fighting for my life, literally fighting for my life, in that area. People running from you. Chasing them to the fence, and tackling them. Making them submit to put the handcuffs on them.
Now they are actually living on the U.S. side, burning tires to keep warm.
And here’s the biggest thing. God put inside me — as he did a lot of law enforcement officers, especially the guys who I consider to be very good. We can tell instantly, and almost like [snaps fingers] that, who’s good and who’s bad.
Meaning, I know when somebody is just, ok, that’s going to be a farm hand, and that person is going to be a maid.
And that person is going to kill somebody. That person is going to rape someone. That is a pedophile, right there.
When I walked around those 75 to 100 men — men! — they were from the nation of India, from the continent of Africa and from the Middle East. I, for the first time in a long time, felt extremely unsafe.
And I knew, as I looked them in the eye, they looked me square in the eye, I knew they were criminals.
[03:28]
And here’s the difference. It’s not like it’s 30 years ago, Clayton. Three years ago I was wearing a uniform down on that border. Three years ago. Here’s the difference: three years ago, I owned that piece of land. Now, they look at me as if I’m the trespasser on their property. They own that. I’m walking on their land. That is how insane this has gotten.
MORRIS: And that’s how it comes across. When you were walking there, I felt nervous for you, just seeing the video. It looks like you are a stranger in a strange land.
[04:12]
CARRELL: I was. I was walking on soil that I dominated, that I owned, and that I spilled blood on. And other people’s blood. To keep America safe. So did all the men and women of the Border Patrol.
We turned it over. They actually believe they own it. I’m trespassing, in there. I did not feel safe.
I’m a big man, and I’ll fight my way out of it. But I knew there was a probability, dude, you’re going to have to fight. This is not safe on any level.
But I need America — and I want your audience to understand, and I want to articulate this as clearly as I can.
Everything that you think is bad, it’s worse. Everything that you think is being done, behind closed doors, is worse.
I want you to think — we are being invaded and it is almost, Clayton, as I have done these interviews, and now that I have been able to piece things together, through investigation and speaking to other journalists — I truly believe that this is a military movement into America.
It has all the signs of it. It’s multiple strategic invasion points, multiple strategic people are moving the parts into America.
At the end of Joe Biden’s term — which is only about eight months away, Clayton, he will have allowed in at least 25 to 30 million people into America.
Try to wrap your brain around that.
[5:32]
MORRIS: It’s unsustainable —
CARRELL: Insanity —
MORRIS: As Elon Musk has been tweeting about this, right? The legal [im]migration is one thing. But the United States, even just allowing an additional one percent of population into the United States is devastating to the United States’ resources, our law enforcement, our … hospitals — hospitals have been overrun with illegal immigrants. That’s something that has not been reported at all, but that’s exactly what’s happening. Speak to doctors, speak to nurses. This is what’s happening in U.S. hospitals right now.
Illegal immigrants. Flooding in. And who’s paying for it? Of course, U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill for all of this.
So, when you were there you were seeing these military-age men. Bonfires all along the border, inside the United States, camped there. And you and I spoke off-camera a little bit about how this is being orchestrated.
And I think you said, imagine — picture, if you will — how bad it is. And you’re not even close to even understanding how bad it actually is.
Can you talk a little bit about the lengths to which these NGOs, and the United States government, are facilitating all of this across the border?
[6:44]
CARRELL: The NGOs are the lynchpin to all of this. Because the federal government, without the NGOs, cannot continue on this.
The individuals that I interviewed — and I had one individual in particular [who] wrote the checks, literally wrote the checks to the NGOs.
And I said, explain to me, in detail, how this works?
And he said, you have to understand this from the perspective of: the federal government created a complete, chaotic destruction of the border. But they do not have the resources, the manpower, the transportation units to move millions of people from the border into the interior.
Thus, they need the NGOs.
He says the federal government needs the NGOs so badly, that the NGOs now run the government.
I actually had to say, “pause,” in my interview: you gotta explain that to me.
He said, ok, we’re averaging between 7, 10, 15 thousand illegal aliens crossing the border every day.
He said, J.J., within a week, you’re at 150-200 thousand illegal aliens in America, living on the border. In two weeks, you’re at a quarter million. In a month, you’re at 400, 500,000. What does that look like?
I’m like, yeah, it’s an absolute media nightmare that we are allowing suffering on our border.
[08:20]
He said, so, in order to continue this invasion, you can’t have bodies stacked on top of each other, a half a million, a million. You have to have an apparatus in place, a machine, that transports them and distributes 30 million people into America. That’s the power they have.
And I said, how does it look when you cut a check? I said, give me an example of you cutting a check.
And he goes, ok, I cut a check for six hundred million dollars.
For what? Like, a three-year contract?
He says, no, for a month or two. To one [NGO]. Not to a dozen, two dozen of the major players, to one.
And I said, ok, since you cut the check, do you follow that money? Are you the accountant, and you —
He just laughed at me. He laughed. He said, there’s no accounting! These are emergency funds given to them, and they do whatever they want. No one cares.
[9:26]
When you look at it, Clayton, from this perspective, the federal government wants to destroy America by flooding illegal aliens into America. It’s indisputable. I don’t even want to argue with people about it any more. That’s the fact.
In order to do that, they have to spend tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars to do that. Do they care? No. Just get it done.
And that is what we’re seeing with the partnership. It’s really not a partnership, the NGOs now have become the contractor, and the U.S. government is the subcontractor. It’s crazy.
[10:00]
MORRIS: So when we’re talking about this check being cut — I know you don’t want to disclose the sources, here, on who’s cutting the check, but this is a U.S. government employee cutting the check? […] This is coming from the Department of Homeland Security? Department of Justice? Where does this pile of money exist?
CARRELL: These are DHS employees. So I want you to think of a giant conference room, and there’s multiple DHS employees. And they’re cutting checks, government employees are cutting checks directly to the NGOs for hundreds of millions of dollars. It’s federal money. It’s coming from FEMA.
And I also heard this. My sources told me the NGOs run FEMA. FEMA doesn’t run the NGO’s. The NGOs tell them what they’re going to do.
The NGOs tell the government, not only this is what I need, you’re going to pay me this amount to do these things. And when I need more, I’m going to call you, you’re going to give me more.
[11:10]
And I said, well, what does that look like?
He said, well, a subcontractor says I need Covid tests. During Covid, Clayton, do you know how much it cost the federal government to administer one Covid test, and read the results? Two thousand dollars a Covid test. Two thousand.
Listen to what my source said. This is brilliant. It’s just brilliant.
I’m Jewish Family Services. I move 500 people from San Diego on planes and buses to Maine. I still have people coming here. So now I have to move those people from Maine to, say, Michigan.
The cost just keeps spinning. So after I move them to Maine, I’m going to retest those 500 people for Covid at $2,000 a pop. To move them to Michigan.
My sources tell me, all the NGOs are doing is just moving a giant shell game. A thousand people there, two thousand people there, 50,000 people there.
[12:18]
Imagine if you’re a business, and I'm contracting with you, Clayton. And I’m saying you have to take care of ten thousand packages for me, every day. And then you tell me, it’s going to cost you $5,000 per package. I don’t care, because I have endless money I can print. So this is just rolling out.
We are looking at — I don’t want to black pill, because this is America, we can overcome anything. But I’m telling you, the farther we slide down this hill, the more bloody it’s going to be to get us back up.
We are at 45 million illegal aliens in America right now. This is from Congressional testimony, 45 million. Some people believe it has already surpassed 50 million.
Forty-five million illegal aliens. You said Elon Musk — I saw that tweet. One percent of our population of illegal aliens will cripple America. If there’s 45 million, we’re at about 13-14 percent of the population. […]
[13:30]
Major voices — Elon Musk, probably the biggest voice, outside of Trump, is saying this is all going to crumble.
I am a guy who has been in there for 24 years, I’m telling you it’s crumbling. The machine is so big now, Clayton, that I do not see it being able to be dismantled and broken down. Because the NGOs have too much money, too much power.
MORRIS: How many NGOs do you think we’re talking about, here? If you had to guess —
CARRELL: Thousands. […] That makes sense. Right? Because if you had four of them, we’d know their names, we expose them, we talk about them.
But if you’ve got thousands of little mom and pop operations that are moving 5, 10, 16 people around the country, much harder to track. Much harder to bring scrutiny upon those individuals. Right?
MORRIS: That’s how they launder money. That’s how they wash it. If you’re the federal government, Mayorkas — and we’re already seeing child rape, women being raped, murders skyrocketing across America. Because the NGOs have brought them all over.
Federal government is going to say, Jewish Family Services did it. Jewish Family Services is going to say, well, I have 100-200 subcontractors under me, they did it.
[14:56]
Who are those subcontractors? Well, they just change their names. There’s no way to trace them.
I asked my source — even though I knew the answer, I wanted this on tape. I said, who’s vetting the NGOs? The people working for the NGOs?
He said, no one is vetting anyone. We’re talking about taking young unaccompanied alien children and [transporting] them across state lines. And nobody knows who’s doing it?
Think of that! Child Protective Services in California can’t bring children to Nevada. There’s a process that has to happen.
We have people that, we have no idea — I have inside information, they’re saying the people who are moving these children are all felons! The people driving the buses, driving them all over America, are felons!
[15:50]
This is the biggest story, that is going to unravel in the next couple years, and decade. And we are going to hear stories that will sicken you. But I will pre-warn you. Everything that I knew was happening — I knew it! — I even miscalculated how successful and how brilliant their plan is.
And I have to applaud them. I’m gonna have to applaud Mayorkas. I can stand him, I can’t stand the democrats and the RINO republicans. But I will, as an intellectually honest person, say to my adversary: You guys are incredible. You are rock stars. If you could put forth that energy to make America prosper, no one could touch us, on any level.
But you have taken all of your energy, time, talent, treasure, and all of your intellect to destroy America. And you are winning.
[16:50]
MORRIS: Well, J.J.’s new documentary is called Treason. I know you’re just starting the process. This was really the first leg of it. And what you’ve uncovered in the first leg is terrifying.
I can’t wait to see what else you uncover, with this.
And J.J. is the author of a great book, Invaded. I highly recommend that you all read it.
J.J., what is the timeline on the documentary? Where do you think you’re going next?
CARRELL: We’re going to Chicago, and then we will head out to New York and Boston, and then back down to the border in Texas. We will be done by this summer and we hope to release it in September or early October at the latest.
[17:35]
You can go to givesendgo.com/savingamerica. We are self-funding, the production company put forward the majority of the money. But the costs are exhorbitant. […] Your audience has already been so generous. Your five dollars, it adds up and allows us to go further, interview more people. Conceal their identity.
Here’s the thing — everyone wants to talk to us, but no one wants to talk to us. Because they’re scared to death of being fired, or being jailed by our own government.
And I’m not getting classified information. I would not allow them to do that, that could put you in jail. This is all unclassified, this is open information. But they’re scared to death. I have to change their voice, I can’t even show a silhouette of them. So I just actually have a black screen.
Because our federal employees are so nervous about their own employer. The federal government. That’s how bad things have gotten in America.
And you say, well, why don’t they become a whistleblower?
My God, have you seen what’s happened to the whistleblowers? They’ve lost their jobs, they get threatened with jail. Why would anyone, in their right mind, be a whistleblower?
So, this is bigger than even what I envisioned. And I am a little concerned, and I do have some — I don’t know if fear is the right word. But as I’m moving forward with this, it gets bigger. And bigger. And bigger. And I can’t wait to tell the story. Because I will not remain silent, I will not be part of the problem, I have to be part of the solution, no matter what that may entail for me in the future.
I am consistently amazed to see people who, theoretically at any rate, are aware of the current political environment where censorship is used consistently to squelch information, yet they use well known information censors like youtube. I always wonder why, are they in reality actually frauds?
If a person or organization desires credibility and respect I would think they would be particular about their associations. I know I'm selective ....
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