“I Went to the World Economic Forum as a Spy — This is What Scared Me the Most”
Larry Alex Taunton, “Ideas Have Consequences” podcast, guest Jim Ferguson. Transcript.
JIM FERGUSON: “I believe the World Economic Forum to be a very real threat. We need to counter this threat with a global response.”
Larry Alex Taunton, “Ideas Have Consequences” podcast, 8 August 2023.
“In this episode of Ideas Have Consequences, Larry engages in an enlightening conversation with Jim Ferguson, a passionate advocate standing shoulder-to-shoulder against the World Economic Forum and its intricate global strategies. Jim, a devoted patriot from Scotland with a fervent belief in individual liberties, delves into the meticulous research he has undertaken, unraveling the intricate web woven by the WEF. Unveiling their intentions to exercise control over the worldwide food chain by unsettlingly seizing farms, Jim’s insights bring to light the gravity of the situation.
“Furthermore, the video sheds light on the disconcerting connection between prominent WEF benefactors and their zealous promotion of Covid-19 and other vaccines. Astonishingly, these very individuals ardently advocate for a drastic reduction in the global populace by several billion souls. The discourse takes an alarming turn as we explore openly discussed aspirations of globalist powers. The urgency for ordinary citizens to be prepared and resolute in opposing the affluent utilitarian puppeteers orchestrating the World Economic Forum becomes undeniably apparent. Join us to delve into these crucial issues that demand the vigilance and determination of all those who champion the cause of freedom.”
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TAUNTON: I came to realize that the Germans had even hidden from themselves the evil that they were doing by altering language. They didn’t use words like “genocide.” They didn’t speak in terms of “mass killing,” instead they cloaked it with phrases like “the Jewish question” and “the final solution.”
I’ve discovered that this is the case with the World Economic Forum. With terms like, “for the greater good,” “sustainability,” and “for the good of the planet,” this kind of thing. When you begin to engage them in conversation, this is the kind of language they use.
If you’re not acclimated to it, it might escape you, what it is that they are actually talking about. And then when you realize, they are saying something like, “population sustainability,” what they’re actually talking about — they’re talking about depopulation.
(3:15)
TAUNTON: Let me offer a brief introduction…. The World Economic Forum was founded by Klaus Schwab, a German engineer, in 1971. He is the founder and sole chairman of the WEF, and as I like to say, he looks like Ernst Stavro Blofled. He’s a bald headed German who looks like a Bond villain. You can almost picture him petting a cat as he says, “you vill have nothing, and you vill be happy.” This is Klaus Schwab.
I do think people overestimate Klaus Schwab’s power. The World Economic Forum isn’t a legislative body, they don’t have the ability to impose legislation, they don’t have an army. That said, they are a gathering place for world leaders. They’re brokers of power, and they encourage policy. They’ve been very effective at encouraging it.
Last year at the WEF gathering in Davos, Switzerland — the one where, I mentioned, I was there — there were over 600 CEOs from various major corporations, there were 115 billionaires and more than 50 heads of state. And there were 2,700 other people like me, who were there in attendance.
These are people who are pushing godless, anti-human philosophy. Anti-human policies. Some of the farming policies that we’re seeing, depopulation policies. They are the kinds of things that only a short time ago people would say, ‘ah, this is only a conspiracy theory. This is all nonsense, nobody really believes that.’
As I’ve demonstrated on my podcast, I can show these are the things they are saying publically. They are quite open about this.
You made reference to your Twitter. Your Twitter has really exploded. You’ve got a lot of traction on this issue, and I commend you for it. So, help our audience to understand what is happening.
Let’s start with the UK. What is happening that got your attention. A farmer, a businessman in Scotland, who became interested in the World Economic Forum. How did that happen?
(5:56)
FERGUSON: Over a period of years I’ve been aware. I’ve heard the term “World Economic Forum” before, I’ve heard of people meeting in a place called Davos. I have to say I never paid too much attention to it. I assumed it was another one of those billionaire clubs for the rich industrialists, globalists, those in business, banking. And I suppose there are other groups that are very similar like the Bildebergers and these others.
But I really sat up and paid attention when I saw a video of the German chairman Klaus Schwab bragging — he was very pleased with himself and he was actually bragging about how he and his organization had penetrated — those were his own words — penetrated the cabinets of governments around the world.
And it was at that point, I thought, what is he really going on about?
What does it mean when he says he’s “penetrated” them?
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(8:45)
FERGUSON: So I started to investigate…. I will pay tribute at this point to a video you put out that I put on my channel. And although I was aware of a lot of things about the WEF, it still impacted me very, very deeply and that’s how I reached out to you. It was a very powerful video…. In fact I sent that to people, and instantly they were red pilled. What I mean by that, is, they woke up to what really is going on there….
People are starting to see that there is something sinister there.
In the UK, we have a very old parliament, the “mother of all parliaments” as it is sometimes known as. Very ancient traditions in parliament, parties that are very successful. The conservative party in the UK is probably one of the most successful parties that has ever existed. They’ve won more elections, they’ve been in power longer than anybody else.
And I have to say, I am a traditional conservative. My political leanings are slightly to the right of center. I believe in traditional family values, strong borders, strong military, peace through strength.
(10:19)
Supporting our police, law and order, all those types of traditional —
TAUNTON: Isn’t it sad that that’s considered to be “right” of center? It should just be center.
FERGUSON: It should be. But we’ve seen a bit of a takeover within our party. And it’s not just in one party, it’s happened between the two parties. So the official opposition being the labor party, in the United Kingdom, and the conservative party.
And they’ve almost become a uniparty, where they’ve almost morphed into the same thing.
(11:00)
The founder of the labor party — a fellow Scot actually — was a fellow named Sir Keir Hardie. He started the movement in Glasgow many years ago. It was done because he wanted to protect workers, workers’ rights, look after people because in that period of time they were abused by employers. Health and safety was a big issue. Many people lost their lives working in factories where there were no fire exits, or if there were fire exits they were sometimes chained and padlocked, and people lost their lives.
So there were some good reasons why he started what he did. But what’s happened in the UK is that the conservative party that used to be into these traditional types of values are no longer interested.
Immigration is at an all-time high. We have very woke ideology going on, we see police officers in rainbow uniforms walking around. We see police cars covered in rainbow flags, and painted with rainbow colors. It has become almost a complete and utter joke. Crime is at an all-time high.
And because of the immigration situation that’s out of control, coming across the English channel, we have hotels filled with people. We don’t know their backgrounds, many of them are terrorists — as confirmed by our security services, MI5, who protect our internal security within the country.
(12:25)
When Rishi Sunak came into power, he was installed there after a bit of a coup with the previous Prime Minister, Liz Truss, who was democratically elected by the conservative members. And she only lasted a matter of weeks. Then Rishi Sunak came out from nowhere and didn’t get — the members didn’t get to vote.
And he is a World Economic Forum member. As is the chancellor, Jeremy Hunt, as is Penny Mordaunt, one of his closest confidantes and in his cabinet.
(12:57)
And the list goes on and on. So, we had an interview with Keir Starmer … they asked him the question, Davos or Westminster? And he instantly chose Davos, and she asked him why. He said, “that’s where the real power is, that’s where I want to be.” And it was quite clear that Sir Keir Starmer, who heads up the official opposition, is also a World Economic Forum member.
And we’ve seen the introduction of 15-minute cities into the UK, and I know we’re not alone there, are we, it’s happening in other parts of the world. And these are control mechanisms to stop people from moving out of their districts.
And that’s what they’re calling them, “districts.” I don’t know if you’ve seen the film The Hunger Games. That’s what they called it, and it’s a dystopian futuristic nightmare scenario where people have no freedom.
And me being Scottish, and particularly a Scottish highlander, the term “freedom” is really quite important — and I know it is to many millions of people around the world.
(14:00)
So, It’s not just happening in the UK, there are things that are happening that are impacting on us. The introduction of central bank digital currencies is another mechanism. In London we’ve had what’s called ULEZ which is a way to tax people. As soon as their car comes out of their driveway, there are special cameras that watch and they start getting charged a lot of money for using their vehicles. Until they drive back into their driveway again.
(14:31)
So there’s this dystopian type control coming in, and it’s going back to the World Economic Forum. And you’re quite correct, they have no legislative power whatsoever. They’re not elected. Chairman Klaus Schwab is the only chairman of the organization….
But what they do have is people in very senior positions of power not just in the United Kingdom but Joe Biden is linked into it, John Kerry who is the Special Envoy for Climate Change is linked into it.
Justin Trudeau in Canada is a WEF member as is his Deputy Chrystia Freeland, and she’s actually a board member of the World Economic Forum, which means that she’s got significant influence that is very close to her German chairman Klaus Schwab as well.
She’s also in charge of a lot of the finance. I’ve been speaking to a number of people in Canada very recently, and there’s a lot of question marks about where the money is being spent in Canada, and unfortunately we’ve not been getting many answers about that.
Emmanuel Macron is France is also a member of the World Economic Forum as is Mark Rutte who is —
TAUNTON: The new president of Brazil.
(16:01)
FERGUSON: Yes, in Brazil as well, and Mark Rutte of Holland of course. That’s another big issue for me because of what we’ve seen with the Dutch farmers, Larry.
It’s very worrying to see that because there are legislations coming out that’s affecting nitrogen levels. They are targeting farmers not just in Holland but around the world, and I’ll come around to something shortly that’s going to impact into the United States as well, which is deeply concerning.
In Holland they have expropriated 3,000 farms. Which means they are forcibly buying those farms at a price that they want to pay. So they’re seizing people’s farms in Holland — 3,000 of them to start with. Which is going to impact them in significant ways.
(16:45)
Those farmers have farmed on their — they own the land, they own those farms, they own the livestock. And they’ve got no choice in this. And in fact the European Union — in particular the European Commission which are unelected bureaucrats that run the EU — have told those farmers that if they resist they will be banned from farming anywhere else within the EU members states. So anywhere in Europe at all — France, Belgium, Poland, Sweden…. These are very worrying times, Larry.
And it’s going to come to the United States. I’ve been fortunate enough to talk to ranchers and farmers over there on a regular basis. I’ve been speaking to people internationally in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United States, France parts of Europe, Holland and of course the United Kingdom and it’s incredible what I’ve been finding out.
(17:55)
TAUNTON: Before we get to that, Jim, let me ask a quick question. I want to come to that, but let me back you up just a little bit.
Help people understand. You’re a farmer, you know a little bit about this, more than the average individual who doesn’t do any farming — why are they doing this to these Dutch farmers? Help people to understand what is the motive here in buying up these 3,000 farms and pushing people out of their homes?
FERGUSON: The reason they’re taking over these farms, and you have to bear in mind that Holland is the second largest producer of food and food products in the whole of Europe. It’s a massive industry. It’s a tiny little country, they only have a population of 5.8 million people. It’s not much bigger than Scotland.
But Holland is one of these industrious little countries. They have farming methods that are a shining example to other farmers all around the world. It doesn’t get better than the Holland farmers. The Dutch farmers are incredibly good at what they do. And it doesn’t make sense that they are being targeted in this way.
(19:00)
I had a very good interview with Anita Vandermolen who works with a lot of farmers … her business deals with cattle and the transportation of cattle. She was explaining to me that Holland is completely self-sufficient in terms of food provision in fact they are providing food for many, many other nations.
But the World Economic Forum does not want countries to be independent and prosperous. Because at the heart, the dark soul of the World Economic Forum is a desire for a “one world government.” A “new world order” that they control. And what they fear are the masses of people that are around.
Because if people wake up to what they’re really doing, then they could end up being in a big problem because there’s a lot of us and there’s only a few thousand of them that own all the land, and all the wealth and all the money. So one way of ensuring that they have control is to control the food.
(20:00)
They are looking right now at setting up what they’re calling food hubs and these food hubs will be controlled by them. So, go back to Holland briefly. They’re going tos stop them being independent in terms of the production of food, and crops, and cattle and milk and dairy, and they’re going to make them dependent on other nations.
And what they’re doing is they’re launching a media tirade against farmers. Trying to portray farmers as being a problem for climate change. They’re blaming herds of cows for warming up the planet.
TAUNTON: Cattle flatulence.
FERGUSON: Cattle flatulence, yeah. And it’s just not true. It’s false science. They’re using this climate scam type language to frighten people, gullible people that don’t understand that farming is the solution, it’s certainly not the problem.
And the real reason is control, Larry. They want to control the masses of people. There’s a very dark agenda. Unfortunately, there’s no nice way of saying it, but there is, truly, a depopulation agenda going on.
(21:22)
And we can talk a little bit more about that. I uncovered a doctor in Canada, I just retweeted about it — it’s going viral as we speak … What he’s exposed to do with the vaccines is just mind boggling and very, very concerning. And if you want me to I can expound on that a bit more.
TAUNTON: Now having a little bit of an understand of why the WEF is buying up these farms and dislocating all these farmers, you were starting to tell us about your engagement with farmers in other parts of the world… what are you discovering from those conversations?
(22:46)
FERGUSON: They’re all being targeted. The farmers in Canada, the farmers in Poland, the farmers in the UK are not alone. It’s happening at different rates. For example in Holland, they’re really getting hit hard at the moment.
But it’s going to come, and I’ve been engaging with some ranchers in Nebraska and some farmers over in Texas and various other places and they’re starting to wake up to what’s going on.
I spent a long time talking to a farmer in Yorkshire … in detail about what is coming to the UK, and it’s very concerning.
For example, the Environmental Protection Agency in America are getting massive investments at the moment. Huge amounts of money. And they are hiring all these people, these enforcers, on massive salaries — huge salaries, in excess of $200,000 a year, very well paid jobs. They’re just recruiting an army of people.
(23:50)
And what they’re going to do, EPA are going to be going and paying visits to farmers and ranchers and different people armed with new legislation that’s going to be coming in which will be passed into law by … Congress. Which of course will be drip-fed down by people like John Kerry who is fully involved with the World Economic Forum and he has stated the fact that the seizing of farms may have to be done in the United States. I think he mentioned the date of ‘24-‘25 so we’re not talking far into the future. This is happening right now, and people need to understand that it’s all about control.
Control the food, and you control the people.
I’ve been engaging with people internationally, because I believe there are three strands.
I’ve spent a career working with specialist police units, not as a police officer but as something else. I ran a team in Scotland and I reported to my HQ in London … I worked with specialized police officers doing intelligence and serious organized crime and violent crime…. And what I found working with people like that — it’s very similar in the military. You have the strategic level, the tactical level, and the operational level.
I had an idea just sitting quietly one evening thinking about the WEF and what was going on. And Larry, I truly perceive them to be a global threat to humanity itself. To all freedom-loving people around the world.
(25:42)
People that love their constitution, their Bill of Rights in America…. These people are a very real threat. And so I thought we maybe need to counter this global threat with a global response. Because no individual country is going to be able to stand against them alone. These people are incredibly well financed, they’ve got people like Bill Gates, George Soros, Alex Soros — George’s son, of course — is now taking over the reins.
There are many others. I think what we need to do is try and create a greater awareness, just with ordinary people around the world, so they understand what’s happening.
And hopefully there will be some good guys out there because not every billionaire is evil or wants to take over the world….
(26:34)
I pay tribute to people like Elon Musk, who’s probably the wealthiest billionaire of them all. If it wasn’t for him, I wouldn’t be what I’m doing right now, on Twitter …. If it wasn’t for Elon Musk buying Twitter and opening it up to true freedom of speech again, this wouldn’t be happening. So not everybody that’s wealthy or has been successful in life, in business, or whatever, is bad….
(27:40)
TAUNTON: Jim, have you engaged any [WEF members]? … I ask because I would encourage you to, because … they are dangerous.
(28:30)
All the more so when you actually engage them in conversation. When I was at Davos … I was there kind of as a spy, but as far as they knew I was just another WEFer. I went and sat in one of the coffee shops during the breaks between various sessions …. People pile into restaurants and coffee shops … before they head back into the conference.
They began to talk quite freely. And issues like we’re discussing here. I detected the word … “sustainable.” Because I noticed that their word that is freighted with all kinds of evil meaning, the word “sustainability” or variants of it.
Whenever you hear the word “sustainable” you’ve got to brace yourself for what’s coming next. Because they’re hiding, in it, a lot of sordid stuff.
By way of example … I was doing some research on the intellectual origins of the Holocaust … and it was very interesting to discover that the American and British interrogators at Nuremberg of those Nazis who carried out the Holocaust, in the very early going of those interrogations, they kept encountering the phrase, “final solution.”
And we know well enough what that means now, you know, so many decades hence. But at the time the West was unfamiliar with the term. One of the prosecutors [had] to say, what do you mean, final solution?
(30:55)
I came to realize that the Germans had even hidden from themselves the evil that they were doing by altering language. They didn’t use words like “genocide.” They didn’t speak in terms of “mass killing,” instead they cloaked it with phrases like “the Jewish question” and “the final solution.”
I’ve discovered that this is the case with the World Economic Forum. With terms like, “for the greater good,” “sustainability,” and “for the good of the planet,” this kind of thing. When you begin to engage them in conversation, this is the kind of language they use.
If you’re not acclimated to it, it might escape you, what it is that they are actually talking about. And then when you realize, they are saying something like, “population sustainability,” what they’re actually talking about — they’re talking about depopulation.
They are talking about reducing the global population. As I’ve pointed out in more than one of my podcasts with Dr. Dennis Meadows, MIT PhD, World Economic Forum agenda contributor. That’s his title. So this is a guy who contributes to the agenda, the evil agenda of the World Economic Forum.
You have him in interviews saying, “gosh, you know, it’s unfortunate that we have almost eight billion people on the planet, and you know, we’ve got to find a way to get that back down under 2 billion. The earth can sustain, you know, one billion, maybe 2 billion, we’ve got to find a way to get back down there.”
(32:45)
And then he says, “we need dictatorship,” and he says, “and I hope we can get there” — that is to less than 2 billion people — “peacefully.”
Astonishing the way these people talk ….
(33:22)
Just sitting in conversation with them is enough. I keep referring to this quotation by C.S. Lewis. “The very worst kind of tyranny is that tyranny which is exercised for your own good. And it because the tyrant does what he does, he tyrannizes you with a clear conscience. He is sure that what he is doing is actually good.”
As I reflect on history, there are those figures in history who are evil and they know it. I have to believe Genghis Khan was fully aware that he was a rather wicked individual. Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, figures of this type.
But there are those individuals who really believed that what they did was for the greater good. Hitler believed that. He was such a figure.
These are those kinds of individuals because they are sure that ushering in these policies that are anti-human — and I have made the argument that this is just a logical outworking of an utterly godless worldview….
(35:00)
When you take atheism to its logical conclusion — that there is no God to judge you in the next life for your actions in this one, that human life has no intrinsic value whatsoever and no more value than any other animal on the face of the earth, then you are likely to conclude that might makes right, and that selfishness actually is a logical thing to do.
This is where these people are. It is a post-God world that has arrived at a place where human beings matter less than policy.
(35:38)
FERGUSON: Absolutely. These people have no conscience because they don’t believe they’re going to answer to any higher power.
I mentioned a doctor in Canada, and I think I should touch on this because I believe it is connected to what the World Economic Forum have done with the depopulation agenda.
Doctor Shumaker, he’s in Toronto, in Canada, put out a video. He’s saying normally there is only one person in a million who gets myocarditis….
Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart, it damages the heart. He said that he’s done studies … that out of the people that have been vaccinated, instead of being one in one million, it’s two hundred thousand in a million who are now coming down with myocarditis.
(36:38)
And it gets worse. Because he said that … twenty percent of people are getting this… Fifty percent of the people affected will die within five years.
(37:14)
TAUNTON: Absolutely astonishing. I will reveal something of my own view, which may to you feel like no view at all. I’m yet undecided as to what I think about the conversations on the vaccines. And I confess I have not done a deep dive into this. I have friends who are very conservative individuals, and who are highly suspicious of the World Economic Forum, who sit on both sides of this. Individuals whom I respect.
What I find is highly suspicious — how is it that the vaccine is being pushed — and it was pushed hugely by Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum, by Bill Gates, and these are individuals who are depopulation people. They are all about depopulation.
(38:08)
It feels to me, the pro-lockdown and so on — doesn’t it seem just a little bit odd that the people that we were told to trust, concerning the vaccines, are the very people who are the most anti-human.
FERGUSON: Yes, absolutely. And the shocking thing is —
(38:27)
TAUNTON: If you believe nothing else, that at least should raise some alarm bells.
FERGUSON: Oh, definitely. Definitely. I actually did some research into how many people got vaccinated in the UK….
(40:10)